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Interesting news regarding the Made In Japan/Made In Mexico SNES games

Dec 06 at 10:54:14 PM
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So after looking at the inside of a Made In Japan version of DKC 2 and a Made In Mexico version, it looks like the Japan version is first print despite what we thought. We thought that "all" SNES games released after June 95 were Made In Mexico first and then the second prints were back to being Made In Japan. For some reason DKC 2 does not fall into that catagory. Maybe because it was a bigger budget game?


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Dec 07 at 1:20:12 AM
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I have a made in Mexico cart, and yet it says 9548 for that one big chip. It's a copy from Blockbuster Video.

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Dec 07 at 1:29:49 AM
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I figured there wasn't enough production capacity in Mexico at first and they still had to use Japanese production for a portion of these big titles at launch. They'd just have to pay higher import fees than the made-in-Mexico carts (after NAFTA).

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Dec 07 at 2:43:09 AM
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Originally posted by: scaryice

I have a made in Mexico cart, and yet it says 9548 for that one big chip. It's a copy from Blockbuster Video.
Is it the Not For Resale cart?
 

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Dec 07 at 6:59:43 AM
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I would surmise none of the boards chips were ever made in Mexico. But sent there for assembly.

Dec 07 at 7:36:12 AM
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I always thought Made in Japan was the first print? I can trace back to a 2012 thread when we discussed it at length.  I've only casually paid attention though.

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Dec 07 at 10:17:10 AM
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Originally posted by: Sign Collector Guy

I would surmise none of the boards chips were ever made in Mexico. But sent there for assembly.
I agree... I think it is pretty unlikely that a chip manufacturing facility existed in Mexico in the 90's.

Board assembly on the other hand is way easier and cheaper to tool up and only involves slightly specialized labor.

 

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Dec 07 at 3:17:19 PM
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Originally posted by: jonebone

I always thought Made in Japan was the first print? I can trace back to a 2012 thread when we discussed it at length.  I've only casually paid attention though.

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&thr...
According to Bronty all first print games pre June 95 are Made In Japan and all games post June 95 are Made In Mexico up until mid 97 where games games were Made In Japan again. We now know this is not the case...

 

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Dec 07 at 5:14:29 PM
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Nice to see people continuing to research.

I don't have any comment at this time as I haven't looked at this in years. Nice work Mike.

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Originally posted by: austin532

Originally posted by: jonebone

I always thought Made in Japan was the first print? I can trace back to a 2012 thread when we discussed it at length.  I've only casually paid attention though.

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadi...
According to Bronty all first print games pre June 95 are Made In Japan and all games post June 95 are Made In Mexico up until mid 97 where games games were Made In Japan again. We now know this is not the case...

 





Can you not be so cryptic and state exactly what date information you see for those of us who dont collect loose carts?

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Dec 07 at 5:46:34 PM
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What do you mean? The dates on the chips? So 9545 means 1995 week 45 (Nov. 6 - Nov. 12) Seeing how the chips were always made at least 3-4 weeks in advance and that DKC 2 was released November 20 1995, that seems about right. This particular one was not the first one off the assembly line but it was definitely first print.


Here is another Made In Mexico version. This one is a little more cryptic but I assume it means 9601. 1996 week 1 (Jan. 1 - Jan. 7) That's well past the release date of DKC 2 by the time it gets to the store sometime in late January.



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Edited: 12/07/2018 at 05:47 PM by austin532

Dec 08 at 1:08:33 AM
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Here's my Mexico copy of DKC2, which I bought used from Blockbuster in the 90s:



 

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Dec 08 at 2:26:29 AM
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Yeah...I don't get it. It's almost as if they made both around the same time. One batch Japan then a few weeks later was the Mexico batch, then back to Japan. That would also explain why the Japan version is much more common. To be fair though 9548 is after the release date and wouldn't arrive at stores until late December.

So unless we find a Mexico version with a very early date like 9544 then I still pointing towards Made In Japan being the first print.

Here is yet another Made In Japan version with a 9545 date. Starting to notice a pattern here as well. The first batch uses the 1J1M-20 boards.



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Edited: 12/08/2018 at 02:21 PM by austin532

Dec 08 at 6:31:29 PM
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I remember around the time DKC2 came out. There was a lot of promotion coming from Nintendo and I'm sure they were anticipating this to be a big selling title.

I was on a field trip in elementary school at a historic plantation where everyone was dressed up like pilgrims and they churning butter and making handmade wax candles and out of nowhere there's this outdoor Nintendo booth with DKC2 signs and systems set up for people to play. If course, my chaperone wouldn't let us play but some of my classmates told me about how they got a chance to play.

Anyhow, I'd bet for this particular title, the number of units they wanted to have ready on launch date was more than they'd be able to accomplish at one factory before launch so maybe they cranked them out at two factories at the same time

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Dec 08 at 9:21:40 PM
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That makes sense as to why the dates are off like that. Still doesn't explain why DKC 2 would be made in japan first when all SNES games were now being made in mexico. My guess is because it was a highly anticipated game as you say, they used better quality machines.

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