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fact: you need the super scope and mouse for the full SNES experience even just rentals so you can say you've used them

May 15 at 10:10:39 PM
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the Super NES was one of my first game consoles, lots of the main classic titles but I also had the super scope with super scope 6, yoshi's safari and bazooka blitzkrieg, along with the mouse and mario paint. Sure, they weren't compatible with many games, it's the accessories and those one of a kind games that made such great memories.

I can't help but mention the snes classic in this case, because despite all the great games that are included by default, no super scope 6 or mario paint makes it feel incomplete. no super mario all-stars makes the collection pretty barren too.

did anyone else have the super scope or the mouse back in the day? anyone try them as an adult?





.... anyone have a loose super scope for sale in canada?

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Edited: 05/15/2018 at 11:06 PM by Koopa64

May 15 at 10:16:17 PM
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The SNES mouse works pretty well for Arkanoid: Doh it again. It makes up for the lack of a Vaus controller.

May 15 at 10:16:37 PM
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dp.


Edited: 05/15/2018 at 10:18 PM by Tulpa

May 15 at 10:23:23 PM
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My step brother and I used to play the hell out of Tin Star with the mouse when we were 9

May 15 at 10:46:23 PM
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I agree


I would also say the SNES mouse is un-fucking-usable nowadays. Thank god for advances in technology.

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May 15 at 11:03:10 PM
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Originally posted by: Brock Landers

I agree


I would also say the SNES mouse is un-fucking-usable nowadays. Thank god for advances in technology.
Hyperkin makes a fine laser mouse with extra long cord. It works great on bed spreads and pants legs!  

I don't mind the super scope, but it can become pretty tiresome standing there holding that bazooka for the couple hours it takes to play a full game of Yoshi's Safari. The 8-bit era lightguns (Nintendo Zapper, Sega Phasor, Atari XE Lightgun) were much more practical in a sense compared to Sega's and Nintendo's rediculous looking offerings for 16-bit gun play. I know they wanted to make guns that looked more like toys, but I can't help but feel rediculous holding that bazooka think over my shoulder aiming at an itty bitty TV screen. I can easily see why Konami developed their own Justifier for the Genesis/SNES ports of Lethal Enforcers rather than use the default 1st party hardware configuration.

And sadly no lightgun games of any sort work on modern HDTVs, AVS, or Super NT.

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Edited: 05/15/2018 at 11:06 PM by Kosmic StarDust

May 15 at 11:05:36 PM
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I always liked yoshi's safari, even if it wasn't that special. It was only years later I realized that was the first game to refer to princess toadstool as "peach". Yes even before Super mario 64.

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May 15 at 11:08:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Koopa64

I always liked yoshi's safari, even if it wasn't that special. It was only years later I realized that was the first game to refer to princess toadstool as "peach". Yes even before Super mario 64.
Haha, nice catch!  

Even in Super Mario RPG, which released AFTER SM64 in the states, referred to her as "Princess Toadstool". I like how the opening of Mario64 introduced her as "Princess Toadstool... Peach!" making it clear to players this was her first name.

What was the first mention of her name being "Peach" instead of "Toadstool" in Japan? Does it have any relation to the common fruit in a Japanese language setting?

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Edited: 05/15/2018 at 11:11 PM by Kosmic StarDust

May 15 at 11:12:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

What was the first mention of her name being "Peach" instead of "Toadstool" in Japan? Does it have any relation to the common fruit in a Japanese language setting?
AFAIK, she was always Princess Peach in Japan.

 

May 15 at 11:19:17 PM
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Super Scope was really cumbersome and you sure look like a dork using it. It lacked a real killer app, most of its titles felt like tech demos. Give me a Justifier any day.

Mouse was a bit better, but support for it was spotty. Some games you would think would work great with the mouse didn't support it, while random titles like on the ball and arkanoid did.

I don't think you are missing out on many great games not having these 🤷‍♂️

May 15 at 11:23:17 PM
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Originally posted by: fox

Super Scope was really cumbersome and you sure look like a dork using it. It lacked a real killer app, most of its titles felt like tech demos. Give me a Justifier any day.

Mouse was a bit better, but support for it was spotty. Some games you would think would work great with the mouse didn't support it, while random titles like on the ball and arkanoid did.

I don't think you are missing out on many great games not having these 🤷‍♂️
I played Mario and Wario for the first time (despite the fact I have owned it for years) with the Hyperkin mouse on my Super NT a couple weeks back. It is quite a charming little puzzle game with quite a good amount of depth, and although the first couple of stages are boring and a bit too easy, I suggest you play them anyway to learn the mechanics.

I heard wikipedia incorrectly stated that Revolution X on the SNES supports the Super Scope. It does not, but it's listed as a mouse support game instead. I've got to replay it sometime with the mouse and see. Aiming the crosshairs with a Dpad is a PITA.

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Edited: 05/15/2018 at 11:25 PM by Kosmic StarDust

May 15 at 11:24:27 PM
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Originally posted by: fox

Super Scope was really cumbersome and you sure look like a dork using it. It lacked a real killer app, most of its titles felt like tech demos. Give me a Justifier any day.

Mouse was a bit better, but support for it was spotty. Some games you would think would work great with the mouse didn't support it, while random titles like on the ball and arkanoid did.

I don't think you are missing out on many great games not having these 🤷‍♂️
Metal Combat and Battleclash are woefully underappreciated imo

 

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May 15 at 11:51:32 PM
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I had the mouse back in the day. I don't really find it essential, but I think it's an important part of a SNES collection for Mario Paint, and it's kinda neat for some of the shooters or sim games.

The Super Scope I never had, but picked it up recently and love it. It's so weird, and Yoshi's Safari is such a fun experience. The other couple of games for it are decent too.

May 15 at 11:53:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

Originally posted by: Koopa64

I always liked yoshi's safari, even if it wasn't that special. It was only years later I realized that was the first game to refer to princess toadstool as "peach". Yes even before Super mario 64.
Haha, nice catch!  

Even in Super Mario RPG, which released AFTER SM64 in the states, referred to her as "Princess Toadstool". I like how the opening of Mario64 introduced her as "Princess Toadstool... Peach!" making it clear to players this was her first name.

What was the first mention of her name being "Peach" instead of "Toadstool" in Japan? Does it have any relation to the common fruit in a Japanese language setting?



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I played a whole lot of the bug game on Mario Point back in the day. Good times!

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Yoshi's Safari is a great game, but it's very tiring as an adult to stand there and finish it to completion, as there are 12 stages total spread across two maps (6 per map). I think next time I play I'll use "hard mode" so it's not a cake walk.

Battle Clash and Metal Combat I found quite difficult however.

My Super Scope came without the eyepiece, but I created a unique substitute by drilling a 1/8" hole into a 20oz soda bottle cap. The bottle cap will screw on right and stay put, right where the old rubber grommet used to be. Viewing the scope with my right eye's restricted view and the whole screen with my left kind of works.

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Originally posted by: Krunch
 
Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust
 
Originally posted by: Koopa64

I always liked yoshi's safari, even if it wasn't that special. It was only years later I realized that was the first game to refer to princess toadstool as "peach". Yes even before Super mario 64.
Haha, nice catch!  

Even in Super Mario RPG, which released AFTER SM64 in the states, referred to her as "Princess Toadstool". I like how the opening of Mario64 introduced her as "Princess Toadstool... Peach!" making it clear to players this was her first name.

What was the first mention of her name being "Peach" instead of "Toadstool" in Japan? Does it have any relation to the common fruit in a Japanese language setting?



"Do I dare to walk alone? Do I dare to eat a Peach?"
In Super Paper Mario, where Peach sleeps in the stairway to heaven stage, you can feed her different colored fruit. One of them gives her a mustache, another turns her into a Peach. I had fun trying all the different combos.

 

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May 16 at 12:20:10 AM
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The most use I got out of my mario paint was using the mouse pad as a rolling tray for blunts.

May 16 at 12:58:27 AM
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Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

Even in Super Mario RPG, which released AFTER SM64 in the states, referred to her as "Princess Toadstool".

That would be false:

Super Mario RPG - May 1996
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Originally posted by: fox

Super Scope was really cumbersome and you sure look like a dork using it. It lacked a real killer app, most of its titles felt like tech demos. Give me a Justifier any day.

Mouse was a bit better, but support for it was spotty. Some games you would think would work great with the mouse didn't support it, while random titles like on the ball and arkanoid did.

I don't think you are missing out on many great games not having these 🤷‍♂️
 
This phrase is cringy to me. Please use that sparingly from now on. Just saying

 

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I can't speak for the mouse as I am not as familiar with it, but I can the Super Scope. I absolutely love Yoshi's Safari, I like the idea of a first person on rails shooter that utilizes the Super Scope and I feel like they did a very good job. However, I wouldn't necessarily say they are necessary. There are plenty of good games without the inclusion of the Super Scope. I personally just got a Super Scope about a year ago because it was cheap. Beforehand, I didn't feel like I was missing out and I still don't feel that way not having a good chunk of the super scope games. I guess I also fail to see what was so special about it, it was a big bulky light gun.

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Originally posted by: Kosmic StarDust

My Super Scope came without the eyepiece, but I created a unique substitute by drilling a 1/8" hole into a 20oz soda bottle cap. The bottle cap will screw on right and stay put, right where the old rubber grommet used to be. Viewing the scope with my right eye's restricted view and the whole screen with my left kind of works.
That sounds like a really awesome DIY scope.

I remember being excited seeing Mario and Wario in Nintendo Power only for it never to come out.  I played a rom years later and was like, yeah I can see why Big N didn't want to give this a push.  Maybe I'll try to revisit it if you say it picks up later.

I played a lot of light gun shooters religiously.  Lethal Enforcers and Point Blank were my jams.  None of the Scope's otherings really grabbed me the same way.  Maybe it is because it limited co-op/competitive play to one gun.

Battle Clash was alrite.  Kind of like Punch Out but with a bunch of ethnic stereotypes except you throw missles instead of punches.  And of course the lone female pilots a pink mech with boobs.  I never got around to Metal Combat, mostly because I didn't realize it was a sequel to Battleclash.  Why the name change?  Not like the story was that great in Battleclash that we were suppose to know who Falcone was or remember why he wanted Revenge.  Yoshi's Safari was just an average shooter that uses Mario assets.  Seemed like one and done type of games, you rent it for the weekend, beat it, never think about it again.

Tin Star doesn't see much love.  Pretty charming artstyle and music, and makes good use of the scope/mouse.  Plus it is super cheap.

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Originally posted by: quest4nes
 
Originally posted by: fox

Super Scope was really cumbersome and you sure look like a dork using it. It lacked a real killer app, most of its titles felt like tech demos. Give me a Justifier any day.

Mouse was a bit better, but support for it was spotty. Some games you would think would work great with the mouse didn't support it, while random titles like on the ball and arkanoid did.

I don't think you are missing out on many great games not having these 🤷‍♂️
 
This phrase is cringy to me. Please use that sparingly from now on. Just saying

 


You should know better than to tell the internet what makes you cringe.

I still have my Super Scope from back in the day, I need to try it out with Lamborghini American Challenge.